Recode Decode, Hosted By Kara Swisher

Tanium CEO Orion Hindawi talks with Re/code's Arik Hesseldahl about why it's easier than ever for hackers to strike at companies and governments, and why those who cling to obsolete security solutions are putting everyone at risk. Hindawi says we're hearing about more security breaches, but that doesn't necessarily mean more are happening. Plus: Why the coconut-water-drinking corporate culture in Silicon Valley is wasteful, irresponsible and headed for a fall. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices