Recode Decode, Hosted By Kara Swisher

The List App co-founders B.J. Novak and Dev Flaherty talk about their new mobile-social app for making lists and how tech is changing the entertainment world. Later, Lauren Goode joins Kara to talk about Apple's new iPad Pro and whether it's worth the upgrade. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices