Wise Men Say

A drab cup tie against Burnley means we've yet another fixture to contend with. Hurray. We talk about the game, cup attendances and other stuff anarl.Joining Stephen and Gareth in the studio is The Sunderland Echo's new Sunderland writer, Phil Smith and WMS regular, Rory Fallow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.