Gut + Science - Real Talk With Ceos On Culture, Data, And Decision-making

Employee engagement metrics have barely moved in over a decade, but what if we're measuring the wrong things? Nikki sits down with Joshua Freedman, CEO of Six Seconds and author of the soon-to-drop “Emotion Rules”. Together, they go deep on why engagement isn’t about snacks in the breakroom or slick surveys. It’s emotional, and it’s human. They unpack why “leave emotions at the door” might be the worst business advice ever, what true caring leadership looks like, and how love, trust, and boundaries create high-performing cultures where people actually want to show up. If you’re ready to trade performative leadership for authentic connection, this episode is your roadmap.