Aa Beyond Belief

Pat N. will be a keynote speaker at the We Agnostics, Atheists and Freethinkers International AA Convention that will be held in Austin, Texas from November 11th through the 13th of this year. He was kind enough to visit with me for a podcast to share a little of his story, to talk about starting a secular AA convention in Olympia, and to talk a little about some of the happenings in Austin this Fall.