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Brandon Vedder is the director of the upcoming "Strange Negotiations," a documentary exploring the existential, artistic and family life of musician David Bazan. He sat down for an hour with us to discuss his background in film, the origins of his current project, his relationship with David and how it has grown and morphed over the course of this doc being made, how the Kickstarter has gone thus far, the true cost of the film and how festivals and potential distribution will factor in. The Kickstarter to fund "Strange Negotiations" is still live until April 6th, 2017 at 8:00 AM! Go here to find out more, see the array of awesome perks and support the film: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/864557968/strange-negotiations-the-david-bazan-documentary?ref=nav_search If you enjoy Ink & Echo and would like to help supplement our monthly costs in exchange for bonus exclusive content, please visit www.inkandecho.com/patreon We're sponsored this week by Josh's new favorite hamburger chain featuring a star

Steven is a musician living in Ohio and 1/3rd of Hotel Neon (remember Andrew Tasselmyer from episode 009?), the band that toured with Andy in 2016 on the Slow Spaces Tour. He joins the Goodboys for the whole episode to discuss his process of writing music both individually and for the groups he is in, the way in which he views music in general and the profound meaning it holds for him in life, his struggles with sleep and learning to take better care of himself physically, his affinity for high ABV beers and a few stories from the road. OG Maco's ineffable gem "U Guessed It" may or may not be highlighted once again on this episode. Hear Steven's music in all its iterations at https://stevenkemner.com/ Hotel Neon will be playing AudioFeed Festival in Summer 2017 along with Lowercase Noises. Get tickets and more info here: http://audiofeedfestival.com/ You can support Ink & Echo for as little as $1 a month on Patreon and receive access to bonus, exclusive content. Find out more at www.inkandecho.c

The Goodboys are flying solo for a sprawling talk about the woes, joys and methods of parenthood, Josh having a mental breakdown last week because he worries so much about what people think and that his close friends don't care about him, Imposter Syndrome and how Josh and Andy have individually experienced it, the fact that there are so many ways in which to contact a person because of technology and apps, people ending friendships by deciding to stop responding, Internet Comments make a comeback, privacy online in relation to one's notoriety and Andy shares a closing tweet he had written while having diarrhea. Our sponsor this week will look into your future via AI and erase whatever files on your hard drive that you will never use again. From the makers of SemiSavers, it's SpaceSavers. www.inkandecho.com/spacesavers To support Ink & Echo for as little as $1 a month and receive access to exclusive perks and bonus episode snippets, please visit www.inkandecho.com/patreon Our theme music is "Gold" by Blac

John Chong is a drummer and producer who grew up in LA and was formerly a member of the band Run River North. He is @JohnCHONG on Twitter and @john.chong_ on Instagram. To support Ink & Echo for as little as $1 a month and receive access to bonus episodes and exclusive content, please visit www.inkandecho.com/patreon Our sponsor this week is RapKit1, the only starter kit you need to be the top artist on SoundCloud for five minutes. www.inkandecho.com/rapkit1 Our theme music is "Gold" by Black Map, used by permission. www.blackmapmusic.com 

Stefan Tomlinson joins The Goodboys for some impromptu banjo and guitar singalong songs, Bambi the book and animal-centric novels, what the hell happened to Richard Simmons and what artists "owe" to their fanbase, the status of Stefan's new Stemson album, self-driving cars, how Josh is bad at finding new jobs and how the current workforce culture might perpetuate dissatisfaction with jobs, how Josh's mom thinks he is very bad, retaining memory and the consumption of various forms of media and weighing their respective values. To support Ink & Echo for as little as $1 a month and receive access to bonus episodes and exclusive content, please visit www.inkandecho.com/patreon Our sponsor wants you to put their shirt on. www.inkandecho.com/takemetothemoon Our theme music is "Gold" by Black Map, used by permission. www.blackmapmusic.com

This week Andy and Josh are all over the place, discussing the latest on Andy's (nearly complete) studio build, the book Josh is reading for people who are skeptical about God (plus Andy's skepticism about the book itself), the fact that both goodboys have been listening to a lot of Joe Rogan lately and the different things they've each gleaned from the show, Josh's recent lack of inner peace and inability to enjoy reading fiction, the goodboys implementing the idea of minimalism into their lives, a brief discussion of CBD, marijuana and psychedelic mushrooms. Scattered though it may be, this episode hits on some good(boy) notes. To support Ink & Echo for as little as $1 a month and receive access to bonus episodes and exclusive content, please visit www.inkandecho.com/patreon In lieu of a sponsor, this week is brought to you ad-free due to Andy & Josh's passion for that old great American pastime, SPORTSBALL. Our theme music is "Gold" by Black Map, used by permission. www.blackmapmusic.com

This week we're joined for the whole episode by our friend Dave Mantel, a fellow musician and producer from Chicago with a unique personal story and outlook on life. The discussion begins with a basic background of where Dave is from, what he does and how he has been in communication with Andy for the past few years, but quickly transitions into a deeper conversation about Dave's history with working for a church in various roles, his struggle with anxiety and depression (as well as how he has taught himself to address those things in a more healthy way), several vulnerable stories involving deep personal pain and loss and his disenchantment with the form of religion in which he was raised, and how he approaches faith today. Find Dave's own music and the artists on his label at www.naalmusic.com and www.brokenlightrecords.com To support Ink & Echo for as little as $1 a month and receive access to bonus episodes and exclusive content, please visit www.inkandecho.com/patreon Protect your virgin ears from ba

Devin Shelton, vocalist and bassist of Emery and a solo artist in his own right, joined us for a conversation about leaving his job as a worship pastor within a church to pursue his music career and to manage several facets of the BadChristian clothing and merch line. He speaks openly about the discord of working for a church versus being a musician with full creative control, the (unpleasant) nature of formulaic worship music and Christianity as a money-making industry, his own journey of questioning and uncertainty while maintaining faith and shares a deeply personal story about the passing away of his mother last year. He closes on a lighter note with a hilarious story from the road involving the other members of Emery and fireworks. Hear Devin's brand new solo record "Sensation" at http://shop.badchristian.com/collections/devin-shelton Devin manages BadChristian's new line of high quality goods which can be perused and purchased at https://bc.supply/ To support Ink & Echo for as little as $1

We're joined by two entrepreneurs out of Nashville for a conversation regarding their music licensing service, SoundStripe, which gives filmmakers and video content creators access to unlimited use of music (for only 10 bucks a month) from an ever-expanding library of songs by a hand-picked group of prolific composers. Travis and Micah discuss how their company works, how it benefits both the content creators and the artists, the status and constant shift of the music industry, the value of music and the differences in how its value is perceived, why they believe their model will have longevity in the business and a story about their first business venture in real estate which was ultimately short-lived. Check out the SoundStripe library and learn more about their services at www.soundstripe.com For great deals on boots made out of every possible substance you can think of, please visit our sponsor at www.inkandecho.com/farmerbillsbootbarn Our theme music is "Gold" by Black Map, used by permission. www.blackm

Josh talks with two filmmaker friends from Albuquerque, Davy and Ariel, who operate their own production company through which they produce artful advertisements for commercial clients as well as their own original creative content. They discuss the music video they made together for Josh's band in 2011, running 8292 and their respective roles, how they balance their day jobs as the company grows, the feature film that Davy wrote and directed, general production challenges and collaborating with many different people on a film, a couple of soapbox rants about the slew of current disposable media, remakes and reboots, and finally, an in-depth talk on the work of Tolkien and Lord of the Rings including Davy's passionate defense of Peter Jackson in relation to the The Hobbit trilogy. See Davy and Ariel's current work at: http://www.8292productions.com/ To watch the trailer for Davy's feature film "The Garden," visit: http://www.thegarden-movie.com/trailer To watch the music video that Davy and Ariel helped make

This week it's just Andy and Josh to talk about the writing and recording process of creating the Cordial Kill film soundtrack, how they collaborate together in that setting, and the difficulties Josh has had with editing his film. Then Josh tells a dumb joke that Andy thinks is too old school and juvenile to be funny and the goodboys then embark on a conversation about taking better care of themselves and making 2017 a better year than 2016. It's really more intriguing than all of that sounds. To support Ink & Echo for as little as $1 a month and get access to exclusive content, bonus episodes and more, please visit www.patreon.com/inkandecho Our theme music is "Gold" by Black Map, used by permission. www.blackmapmusic.com

Mark Engles, guitarist of dredg and Black Map (and a long time musical influence of Andy's), joins us for a conversation about his playing style, how Black Map began and what their writing process looks like, details on their upcoming sophomore album "In Droves," his relationship between being a touring musician and having a day job, life in San Fransisco, how they met Chevelle, and lastly, a hilarious story from dredg's tour in Belgium and the elaborate prank that happened there. Hear Black Map's music and pre-order their new album, "In Droves," available March 17th 2017, at www.blackmapmusic.com To support Ink & Echo for as little as $1 a month and receive access to bonus episodes and exclusive treats, please visit www.inkandecho.com/patreon Our show theme music is provided by, coincidentally enough, Black Map. Used by permission.

Knate Myers is a self-taught photographer from Albuquerque, NM who has garnered a substantial following through his landscape photography, long-exposure photos of the starry night sky and compiling stunning timelapses. His vibrant editing style and affinity for capturing epic locations has gained him attention around the globe. Knate has been friends with Josh and Andy since before he ever picked up a camera, and he joins us for the whole episode to discuss the progression of his career, working with local photo co-op galleries in Santa Fe and Albuquerque, collaborating with the annual International Balloon Fiesta, how he has overcome personal obstacles in advancing his talent and business, and his impending transition out of a dayjob to pursue photography full time. Knate's work can be found at: http://knatemyers.zenfolio.com/ Andy even collaborated with Knate and provided music specifically for one of his timelapse videos, which can be seen here: https://vimeo.com/46599918 To support Ink & Ech

Colin Frangicetto, guitarist for Circa Survive and an accomplished fine artist across a number of mediums, joins us for a conversation regarding the band's history and how it relates to his personal life, what life between touring and recording albums looks like, the growth and current status of his artistic career, his use of psychedelics and how they have had a positive effect on the way he sees things, the relationship between dredg's "el cielo" album and the film "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind," and a couple of stories from the road involving Drew Roulette of dredg, Anthony Green, mushrooms and marijuana. To support Ink & Echo for as little as $1 a month and receive access to additional episodes and exclusive bonus content, consider becoming a Patron by visiting www.inkandecho.com/patreon The show theme is "Gold," by Black Map, used by permission. www.blackmapmusic.com

Tyler Barstow, co-founder and co-owner of the curated monthly record subscription service Vinyl Me, Please, joins Josh for a conversation about the company, music, life, marriage and some existential thoughts on death and human legacy. To support Ink & Echo for as little as $1 a month and receive access to bonus content and special perks, please visit www.inkandecho.com/patreon Our show theme is "Gold" by Black Map, used by permission. www.blackmapmusic.com

This week Stefan Tomlinson joins us for a discussion on a smattering of possibly controversial or difficult subjects such as issues of race, gender identity pronouns, social justice warriors, our new culture of acceptance, faith and spirituality, the Millennial generation's propensity to be easily offended, public shaming and more. We do not claim to be experts or even well versed in any of the above, but these are merely things we believe are worth talking about and which we ourselves are trying to navigate, understand and learn how to live alongside in a way that is respectful and loving. We end on a lighter note by sharing our respective favorite curse words and insults. Much of this conversation was inspired by the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, episode #877 with Jordan B Peterson: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/877-jordan-peterson/id360084272?i=1000378365812&mt=2 We're sponsored by a new iteration of a previous sponsor, now known as Adorable Portable Portal, now with a "hot" new feature: www.ink

Brady is the founder and owner of Old Blood Noise Endeavors, a "weird, niche based" guitar pedal company out of Norman, Oklahoma. Brady talks about the origins, growth and operation of his business, his history being the first hired employee at Walrus Audio, working there for three years, and ultimately departing. He also touches on his period as a touring guitar tech for Brand New, where the knowledge and inspiration comes from to create and build new takes on pedal effects, working at Keeley Electronics, and how OBNE strives to be different in the way they present their products in the current state of guitar and pedal culture. Old Blood Noise Endeavors' pedals and their newly released headphone amp can be found at http://www.oldbloodnoise.com/ To support Ink & Echo for as little as $1 a month and get access to exclusive episodes and bonus content, please visit www.patreon.com/inkandecho Our theme music is "Gold" by Black Map, used by permission. www.blackmapmusic.com

This week we have the privilege of thanking our first Patreon supporters! To find out more and become a supporter of Ink & Echo yourself, please visit www.patreon.com/inkandecho. In the show, Josh tells Andy something extremely serious, important and vulnerable, then Andy poses a question as to how he should address a music commitment that he would like to get out of. The guest today is Trevor Eagleman, a talented artist out of Lawrence, Kansas (who also happens to be Josh's cousin). We discuss the fact that Trevor never really adopted social media and only recently has any sort of internet presence, as well as how he prefers a flip phone over a smartphone. Josh mentions how Trevor is a rare breed for his age in the best of ways, in that he is incredibly present in person and an attentive listener. We talk about Trevor's approach to artwork, his ability to be productive without having urgency or beating himself up about not doing enough, some specific works of his including an ongoing accordion-book proje

This week we're joined once again by David Bazan for a new, different conversation that supersedes the previous episode. The reason for this is explained in the interview itself. We begin by discussing a handful of films, as David had just come from having seen Denis Villeneuve's "Arrival," which then leads to a conversation regarding the works of Cormac McCarthy. We cover the literary quality of certain Bazan songs vs. his more personal ones, how being a parent can amplify protectiveness and fear of harm, whether or not Dave has had any house shows go south, his relationship with the Death Cab guys, the making of and story behind the recent "Trouble With Boys" music video, then things turn to an existential discussion of death, and, yes, back to movies at the end. If you enjoy Ink & Echo and want to support the show for as little as $1 a month (there are rewards!), please visit www.patreon.com/inkandecho and watch our Patreon pitch video for more info Our theme music is "Gold" by Black Map, used by permi

He Is Legend has been one of Andy and Josh's staple bands for years, so Schuylar Croom was another bucket-list guest for us. It was such an honor to have him join us on this episode for a lengthy conversation that meanders between silliness and profundity. We touch on what He Is Legend has been up to since the release of Heavy Fruit, Schuylar clarifies what exactly their "hiatus" entailed, we dig into some of the band's history with Solid State and discuss their early records, including the backlash to Suck Out the Poison and the assumption that they were a "Christian" band purely because of their label. Schuylar also talks about his personal life, other creative endeavors, work in film, dayjob, and gives some details on the new He Is Legend album and the future of the band. To keep up with what's happening with He is Legend, visit https://www.facebook.com/HeIsLegendNC/. Schuylar is @crucialdude on Instagram and Twitter. For folks who like their sandwiches burnt to a crisp, check out the new franchise restaur