Wise Men Say

This Championship lark is canny, isn't it? A lovely old win down at Carrow Road and The Lads have their tails up. Now we head to Sheffield Wednesday hoping to keep that momentum going.Stephen is back (Wahey!) and Rory is back (Wahey!) and we've also got Gav Henderson from Roker Report. Strap yourselves in as we talk about WINNING. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A decent start to the new season means Sunderland can go into the games against Bury and Norwich City with a bit more confidence. We preview both games and get a Norwich view on Sunday's clash too.No Stephen again this week, so Gareth is joined by WMS contributor Richard Easterbrook and The Evening Chronicle's James Hunter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well, Friday happened and it wasn't all that bad. A decent performance, a well earned point and plenty of effort from the lads in red and white. There's plenty to discuss in the studio, with WMS regulars Craig Clark and Gary Foster joining Gareth, as well as Chris Thompson from A Love Supreme. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A new season, but maybe not the optimism that should not all come with it.Sunderland begin their first Championship season in a decade at home to Derby County on the back of that awful game against Celtic. We get the lowdown on Simon Grayson from Simon Crabtree and hear from Derby County podcaster Chris Parsons. We also hear from the gaffer himself.No Stephen this week, so Gareth is joined by WMS contributor Craig Clark and The Sunderland Echo's Phil Smith. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello Wise Men Say and Into The Light listeners,We’re delighted to say that every Thursday, we’ll be producing ‘Wise Men Say – The Preview Show with Sun FM’, replacing Into The Light.Every week we’ll be bringing you the usual in depth discussion and analysis surrounding Sunderland AFC, great guests from the world of journalism, ex players and of course, you, the fans.You’ll also get your post match review show every Monday evening, so that’s two shows a week.If you’re a regular subscriber to the Wise Men Say podcast then you don’t have to do anything.However, if you’re an Into The Light subscriber only, you need to subscribe to the Wise Men Say feed. You can subscribe on iTunes, listen or stream on Acast or use the RSS Feed to subscribe and listen. Alternatively you can stream it from the Sun FM website.We can’t wait to get started again and we hope you’ll be tuning in when the season starts in August.Thanks for listening!ACAST: https://www.acast.com/wisemensayITUNES: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/wise-

Join us at The Southwark Brewery for another WMS live show on Saturday September 2nd! We’ll be joined by former Sunderland goalkeeper and journalist David Preece. Doors are at 7pm and tickets are available at wisemensay.co.uk for £10 (plus £1 booking fee). There’ll be plenty to discuss and it should be another great night. It was incredibly popular last time we did a show at the Brewery and it sold out in a couple of weeks, so I’d suggest you move fast! We look forward to seeing you there! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Just when we thought we were out, Moyes pulls us back in. In an all WMS team affair, we discuss where we go after the resignation of David Moyes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In a season of abject displays, Saturday's pathetic showing against Swansea probably topped the lot. In a final studio show of the season, we're joined by Gavin Henderson of Roker Report, Sobs of A Love Supreme and The Evening Chronicle's James Hunter. Hopefully it'll be a more worthwhile use of time than the 90 minutes we all endured on Saturday. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Stephen, Gareth and Rory are joined by former Wearside Roar editor, amongst other things, Tom Lynn. We pick the bones out of a bizarre Sunderland performance in which we played quite well and did two of those goal things that other people keep banging on about. Too little too late? Hope for next season? Or just plain meh? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Stephen, Gareth, Rory and Michael Lough get together for the first relegation party of the next few weeks. Strap yourself in for some hot, hot depression. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It was all too little, too late. A canny performance, but it probably dug up more questions than answers for David Moyes. Stephen is back and joins Gareth, Rory and Michael Lough in an all WMS affair. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're getting to the stage where the undertaker is going to have to replace the coffin, such is the residual damage from the constant hammering of nails in the aforementioned casket of relegationy goodness. Sunderland seemed to be there in body and not in spirit as they limped to a 0-3 home reverse to Manchester United. Is there anything good about us at the moment? We're all scratching our heads. No Stephen this week, so Gareth is joined by WMS contributors Rory Fallow and Richard Easterbrook as well as local celeb and all round top bloke, Frankie Francis. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Would another manager have got more out of this group of players than 20 points? It's Wilkinson/McCarthy-esque and some of the Wise Men Say team have utterly and completely lost faith in David Moyes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What a dire game and what a dire result. An increasingly frustrated fan bas and with a manager under no real pressure, there's a lot of beef flying about. British beef, of course. Stephen, Gareth and Rory are joined my ALS Fanzine's Chris Thompson and The Evening Chronicle's James Hunter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We look back on another brilliant result for the lads in red and white, as we took another step towards securing the Relegation Trophy after a 0-2 defeat to Manchester City. Stephen and Gareth are joined by former Northern Echo sports writer, and current WMS contributor, Richard Mason as well as BBC Radio Newcastle's Nick Barnes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Another bad result and things look bleak, but on the other hand we're still well within touching distance of safety. A non descript defeat at Everton to discuss should be delightful. Joining Stephen and Gareth are Richard Mennear of the Sunderland Echo and WMS contributor Michael Lough. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well, wasn't that the most Sunderland thing in the world to do?We shouldn't even be surprised that we followed up a 4-0 win with a 4-0 loss, knowing that a win would have taken us outside the relegation zone.And we aren't. No Gareth this week, so Stephen, Rory and Craig talked about the game, the squad and the New York trip. The club's New York trip that is. We aren't at the level to be touring to New York ourselves. Yet... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We've been away the last few weeks, but what a time to be alive. Sunderland 4-0 up at half time, sticking one up Allardyce and PVA in the process. A massive result, and the bottom 6 looks tighter than a really, really tight thing.No Stephen this week, so Gareth is joined by Rory Fallow and The Sunderland Echo's Phil Smith. There's also the triumphant return of Craig Clark. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

An absolutely disastrous performance against Stoke leaves us full of woe. We talk about anything but the game. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A drab cup tie against Burnley means we've yet another fixture to contend with. Hurray. We talk about the game, cup attendances and other stuff anarl.Joining Stephen and Gareth in the studio is The Sunderland Echo's new Sunderland writer, Phil Smith and WMS regular, Rory Fallow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.